1. "Honoring Jesus through worship, prayer and obedience to His word, through the power of the Holy Spirit."        New Testament Christians are commanded to "worship God" (John 4:24) not Jesus. What about John 9:31, Matt. 7:21-23; Luke 6:46? Does not this also teach the direct operation of the Holy Spirit?
2. "Pursuing vital relationships with a few other men, understanding that he needs brothers to help him keep his promises."        Is not this also the purpose of the Lord's church and the Lord's Way (Acts 2:42; Phil. 1:3,5; 1 John 1:7)? Why do we need something else?
3. "Practicing spiritual, moral, ethical and sexual purity."        Isn't this also commanded in the New Testament (Matt. 5:8; Acts 15:29; 1 Tim. 1:5; 5:22; 1 Peter 1:22; James 1:27; 1 John 5:21; Jude 21)? Why look we for another?
4. "Building strong marriages and families through love, protection, and Biblical values."        Again, isn't this Biblical teaching already (Gen. 2; Matt. 19-1-9; Eph. 5:22ff). Why do we need something more?
5. "Supporting the mission of the church by honoring and praying for his pastor and by actively giving his time and resources."        We fulfill the mission of the church by preaching the Gospel (Matt. 28:18-20; Mark 16:15-16) -- but look out, "Pray for his pastor." They have denominational clergy-laity false doctrine advocated. Isn't it another "unity in diversity" compromise? Isn't this the language of Ashdod (Neh. 13:24)? What about supporting the church with our free-will offerings on the first day of every week (1 Cor. 16:1-2)?
6. "Reaching beyond any racial and denominational barriers to demonstrate the power of Biblical unity."        They are a little behind with their "racial barriers" because Jesus removed them with the great commission (Matt. 28:18-20; Mark 16:15-16). If we remove the "denominational barriers" can we all "speak the same thing" with "no divisions among us" (1 Cor. 1:10)? That's not their idea. With propagating "unity in diversity" and "emphasizing our likenesses not our differences," they don't want us to "speak the same thing." The Bible Way is our way to stay. "Change agents" have already digressed from God's word. If we go for the purpose of converting these people that's one thing, but to compromise the Bible with their views is another thing altogether.
7. "Influencing his world, being obedient to the Great Commandment (Mark 12:30-31) and the Great Commission (Matt. 28:19-20)."        How can we influence our world by compromise? We'll influence alright, but not for good through compromise. It cannot be done scripturally.
This was the end of the world, the destruction of the temple, and the coming of Christ (Matt. 24:1-3). This was when heaven and earth passed away (Matt. 24:35; Rev. 20:11). (Spirit of Prophecy, p.68).
In verse 10, when the record says, "And thou, Lord, in the beginning didst lay the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the works of thy hands," is there anybody in his right mind who is going to read this passage in this fashion: "And thou, Lord, in the beginning of the Mosaic dispensation, didst lay the foundation of the earth, that is, you established the law of Moses; and the heaven, that is, the ordinances of the law, are the works of your hands?" To interpret that as the Jewish law has to be the biggest bunch of theological garbage that I have every been exposed to in my life. It is pure foolishness. (The A.D. 70 Theory, A Review of the Max King Doctrine, Jackson, Wayne, Courier Publications, Stockton, CA, 1990, pp.77-78)
"You will be happy to know that during that rally our Master's name was praised; religious division was condemned; men were encouraged to be faithful to their families and God; and non-believers that were present were encouraged to turn toward Jesus."This is the old argument, "but there is some good in it." To say there was "some good" is an open admission there was some sin. This is an attempt to focus one's attention on some presumed good and get them to ignore the sin. Eve saw some good in the forbidden fruit and Uzzah saw some good in reaching forth his hand to steady the ark, but that good was not cause to ignore the sinfulness of their actions. Should this cause us to be happy? Surely, joy and happiness comes when our Master is praised and God is glorified, but this is only done in the church (Eph. 3:21). Who do they argue was magnifying the Master, condemning division, etc.? These were denominational preachers, not Christians. Denominationalism does not magnify the Master. It calls for pseudo-unity where all agree to disagree. Surely it is admirable to call for men to be better husbands and fathers, but do the faithful need to be instructed by the apostate, lost and sectarian? What happiness is brought when men are encouraged to turn toward Jesus by faith only? Should we rejoice that Calvinism is being preached? Even though an attempt is made to portray some good, there was none present!
"In 1990 God gave Dave Wardell and Coach Bill McArtney a vision to see men become godly influences in their homes, churches, communities and the world. Come hear how it all started and join with men from all denominations and races in seeking God to continue that vision in our community."
"Promise Keepers is an interdenominational Christian organization begun a few years ago to encourage men to turn their hearts toward their wives and children, to reconcile broken promises, and unite with fellow brothers in Christ, so that God may be glorified."
"able to receive the word for the very first time because he don't have to wear the mask anymore. Before he knows it, the Holy Spirit has him worshipping God as he's always wanted to. Coming to honor God -- that's what it's all about."How can anyone plead ignorance when they say these men have received a vision from God; are an interdenominational Christian organization inviting us to join with fellow brothers in Christ; and can have the Holy Spirit working on us before we know it? Are these so ignorant they do not know God does not reveal himself in visions today? Are they so ignorant they believe we are a denomination and those in denominationalism are our brothers? Are they so ignorant they do not know how the Holy Spirit works in conviction and conversion? If they are so willingly ignorant, they are no better than the world of Noah's day or the Jews of Hosea's day who were destroyed because of a lack of knowledge (2 Peter 3:1- 12; Hosea 4:6).
"Yes we are trying to be faithful and be the New Testament church, but we don't see ourselves as the only Christians -- and they probably do.""They" refers to churches in this area who opposed their sponsoring a Promise Keepers rally. And yes, we do believe you must be a member of the body of Christ, the church of Christ, to be a Christian. No, we do not believe there are Christians outside the body of Christ.
"Look at I Cor. 14:25. What does Paul view as happening? An unbeliever falls face down and begins to talk right out loud in church. Suppose something like that happened today -- how would you react? How do you suppose other congregations would react to the church where that happened? Do we really know as much as we think we do about the first century church? Are not a lot of things upon which we pass harsh judgments actually an effort to keep an older image of the twentieth century church rather than be like the first century church?"Is this parallel to inviting denominational preachers into our pulpits to preach? Did this man in Corinth stand up and ridicule and laugh at the church for not using instrumental music? Please notice the context of this passage. "If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad? But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth" (I Cor. 14:23-25). Paul is showing the superiority of prophesy over speaking in tongues. The confusion in an assembly where all were speaking in tongues would not be conducive to one's seeing salvation in Christ. Such a confused assembly would make an unbeliever think the church at Corinth was "mad" (mainesthe), raving maniacs. However, an unbeliever who would come into the assembly and hear the gospel spoken plainly in an orderly assembly, would be convicted of his sin, judged by the gospel, and have the secrets of his heart laid bare. The result would be to have him fall down and worship God with the full understanding that this is the truth. Is this parallel to an unbeliever coming into an assembly of the church where a Promise Keepers meeting is held? Here he hears denominational preachers mocking the church of Christ for not using mechanical instruments of music in worship and laughing at the idea of the oneness of the church. Then he hears a plea for us to all be alike, yet different at the same time -- unity in diversity. Will he think us raving maniacs or will he be convicted and judged to rise up and declare "that God is in you of a truth?" There is simply no parallel.
"Look at Acts 21:20-26. Let it sink in. Paul is participating in a traditional religious ceremony in the worship building of another religion."This is not parallel to denominationalism. Some have argued in this passage that Paul sinned. The apostle was not above sin, but the context does not seem to indicate that he sinned. Remember that truth was being revealed in part. Paul told the Corinthians, "For we know in part, and we prophesy in part" (I Cor. 13:9). Not all revelation was given at one time. The books of Galatians, Colossians, and Hebrews had not been written at this time. At what time did a total severing of all Jewish ties begin? Remember that the law had a purpose. It was not perfect in that it could not offer remission of sins by the blood of bulls and goats, but it was perfect in its purpose. It prepared a people for the coming kingdom. Please also notice that Paul was being accused of "saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs" (Acts 21:21). Whatever Paul is doing must be done to relieve the minds of the Jews in these areas. Circumcision began with Abraham (Gen. 17). It was a seal of God's covenant with Abraham and his descendants. Paul did not bind or loose circumcision. He had Timothy circumcised in order to help reach the Jews (Acts 16:3), but he refused to have Titus, a Gentile, circumcised even when compelled (Titus 2:3). Customs were not a part of the law. This passage deals with their habits, customs, and traditions. Paul was being falsely charged. Whatever is happening in Acts 21 does not parallel nor give comfort to those desiring to fellowship the denominations. Rather than a difficult passage, one should remember that it is the sum of God's word that reveals truth, not one passage, but the whole. Why not read some plain passages like Ephesians 5:11, "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." Or, maybe 2 John 9-11, "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds." Some do not want to be reminded of those plain passages which condemn their actions.
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